The veteran musicians cover Fugazi, D.C. hardcore and Chicago club culture
Steve Albini and Ian MacKaye, two of the most integral figures in alternative rock, have gone head-to-head in a new edition of Vish Khanna’s Kreative Kontrol podcast. The pair are both known as outspoken figures in their fields. MacKaye was a frontman for multiple bands including Embrace, Minor Threat and Fugazi in the late 80s D.C hardcore scene as well as the boss of seminal punk label Dischord Records. Albini has played in the influential noise rock bands Big Black, Rapeman and Shellac and worked as producer for bands like Nirvana, Pixies and The Jesus Lizard.
The pair discuss their differing views on the D.C. hardcore scene with Albini suggesting he was not a fan of much hardcore but could just about stand some of MacKaye’s work in Minor Threat, “There were a very small number of hardcore bands that I could stomach,” He says, “and [Minor Threat] were at the very top of that group.”
Albini also returns to familiar subject matter during the discussion when he focuses on his dislike of club culture, especially relating to Chicagom “I hated all of it!” he recalls of the scene in comments reminiscent of his recent spat with producer Powell. He also spoke about his memories of recording demo sessions with MacKaye’s band Fugazi in the early 1990s.
Stream part one of the interview below.